LISA DESJARDINS: A critical deadline for lawmakers and the country.

JOE BIDEN, U.S. President: Things are looking good.

Iúm very optimistic.

LISA DESJARDINS: In Washington, plenty of hope.

REP. KEVIN MCCARTHY (R-CA): I thought we made progress last night.

We got to make more progress now.

LISA DESJARDINS: But almost no time left.

Failure to reach a debt deal is setting off alarm on Wall Street and intensity on the House floor.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stop holding our nationús economy hostage.

Itús dangerous.

Itús unconscionable.

REP. CHIP ROY (R-TX): My message to my Republican colleagues is hold the line.

LISA DESJARDINS: Can the sharply divided Congress compromise when the economy itself is at stake, next.

Good evening, and welcome to Washington Week.

Iúm Lisa Desjardins.

The United States, the worldús largest economy, is days away from an unprecedented debt default and a toxic ripple effect across the government because President Joe Biden and House Speaker Kevin McCarthy cannot agree on how to raise the nationús borrowing limit or debt ceiling.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced today that the nation could run out of money to pay its bills as soon as June 5th, giving the president, speaker and negotiators slightly more breathing room to strike deal and get it through Congress.

One core issue, spending cuts.

KEVIN MCCARTHY: Itús really coming down to one thing.

This has been about spending.

The Democrats have never wanted to stop the amount of spending that theyúre going.

They want to just keep adding and adding and adding.

JOE BIDEN: Speaker McCarthy and I have a very different view of who should bear the burden of additional efforts to get our fiscal house in order.

I donút believe the whole burden should fall in the backs of middle class and working class Americans.

My House Republican friends disagree.

LISA DESJARDINS: As a possible deal started to form this week, so did tension.

A waterfall of speeches cascaded onto the House floor.

REP. RON DAVIS (D-NC): Weúre less than a week away from defaulting on our debt.

We should all be outraged.

CHIP ROY: My colleagues on the other side of the aisle want more, more government.

They want more taxes.

They want more spending.

LISA DESJARDINS: The two sides are so far apart that the House left town and loudly disagreed about whether that mattered.

REP. STEVE SCALISE (R-LA): If some new agreement is reached, members will receive 24 hoursú notice in the event we need to return to Washington for any additional votes.

REP. KATHERINE CLARK (D-CT): You have presented our country with an impossible choice devastating cuts or devastating defaults.

And now youúre sending us home with no resolution.

LISA DESJARDINS: All this political brinksmanship is having real life consequences as the clock ticks closer to debt, even if it is now more than a week away from the so-called X date.

And at least two credit rating agencies this week placed the U.S. on a review or negative ratings watch.

Joining me to discuss this and more are Farnoush Amiri, a congressional reporter for the Associated Press, Peter Baker, the Chief White House correspondent at The New York Times, John Bresnahan is the co-founder of Punchbowl News, and Francesca Chambers is the White House correspondent for USA Today.

It has been quite a murky, confusing and difficult month, I think, for all of us in Washington and for the country.

Iúd like to have a clear look for the country at this table, a clear look at the mud, shall we say?

Bres, letús start with you.

The $1 trillion, $10 trillion, $100 trillion question is where are negotiators tonight?

Where are we?

JOHN BRESNAHAN, Co-Founder, Punchbowl News: Well, they donút have a deal yet.

And as your lead in showed, treasury Secretary Janet Yellen put an X date, they call the X date today, and she established that itús going to be June 5th, which had -- sheúd been kind of fudging it.

And I think that actually it hurts, and it helps both at the same time.

It gives them a hard deadline, but it extended it by four days.

And we all know Congress, if they have four more days, theyúre just going to talk for four more days, okay?

But I talked to some senior Republicans on the way over here tonight.

They donút have a deal.

Theyúre back in the Capitol tonight.

Theyúre still talking to the White House.

They think theyúre close, but itús the last mile.

They still donút have an agreement on spending.

They donút have agreement on spending caps, and they donút have agreement on work requirements for the social programs.

The three big issues, they still have not resolved those.

LISA DESJARDINS: Farnoush, whatús your reporting?

Weúve all been sitting in the hallways a lot together in the last week.

Whatús your reporting tonight and take us through this timeline?

If with June 5th, is that now enough time for a deal to make it through Congress without sweating it?

FARNOUSH AMIRI, Congressional Reporter, Associated Press: I mean, even with June 1st, which is what weúve all been operating under, it was going to be tight, right?

I mean, the House has to pass it, and then it goes to the Senate.

And the Senate, thereús been Senators who -- a set Republican senators who have already pledged to block any sort of spending.

LISA DESJARDINS: Slow it down.

FARNOUSH AMIRI: Slow it down with amendments, as the Senate is already a slow process, slow it down even more.

So, the timeline was already looking really tough for both the White House and House Republicans.

This does give them some breathing room.

But as Brez says, Congress does not need more time because the more time they have, the more time they will spend negotiating.

And this kind of gave them this, like, okay, we have to get it done by this date, and now thatús pushed out further along.

LISA DESJARDINS: Peter, I saw you nodding when Bres said itús good and itús bad to have more time here.

Are lawmakers going to relax too much here or does this at least give them something?

PETER BAKER, Chief White House Correspondent, The New York Times: Washington only works when there is the currency of an urgent deadline, right, with the notion that youúre going to fly off that cliff like Thelma and Louise, thatús the only time they get anything done.

And when you tell them, well, the deadline is kind of fudgy here, itús June 1st, now itús June 5th, theyúre not going to necessarily believe it.

And the worry would be, okay, yes, you say June 5th, but, really, you mean June 8, donút you, or maybe June 15th.

If you get to June 15th, you get those tax revenues coming in.

So, really, we could go until July or whatever.

And you donút want to give them any room for fudging because then you really do take the chance that you head off that cliff without realizing it.

LISA DESJARDINS: Francesca, is there a sense of urgency at the White House?

There have been questions about who feels urgency and when.

Weúve heard the President sound calm, everyone is measured, but weúre getting down to it.

Whatús it feel like there?

FRANCESCA CHAMBERS, White House Correspondent, USA Today: No.

It was pretty calm at the White House today.

I was over there most of the day.

I think that both sides, you can hear in what theyúre saying that they believe that theyúre getting close to a deal because youúve already started to see the maneuvering now over whoús won and whoús lost as Democrats at the White House are laying out.

Well, we, at least, in theory, will have spending caps through the beginning of 2025, a debt ceiling raise through the beginning of 2025.

That puts President Joe Biden in a situation where he doesnút have to renegotiate this before the 2024 presidential election.

So, theyúre already trying to sell this as a win.

Meanwhile, Republicans are highlighting the number of concessions that Democrats have already given out and calling it a win for themselves.

So, I think that thatús how you can draw the conclusion that theyúre getting closer to a deal, is that theyúre now both trying to say that theyúre winning on this fight.

LISA DESJARDINS: But what about the pressure on the Republicans so far?

Wall Street really has not had a big reaction to the situation.

Bres, should we be expecting Wall Street to act more and will that change the results we see on Capitol Hill?

JOHN BRESNAHAN: It would.

I think we were both shocked.

You had Pramila Jayapal, whoús the head of the chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

She was calling on Wall Street to bash Republicans.

I mean, the irony of that Pramila Jaypal calling on Wall Street to bash the other party, I mean, it was something.

Right now, Wall Street, the market was up today.

Now, the debt markets, the interest rates, mortgages are getting more expensive.

There is -- in the debt markets, there is definitely concern there.

But in the stock market, itús not there yet.

But I do think if we get into next week and there is not a deal, I do think weúll start because we now have an X date, right?

We now have this is the Thelma and Louise.

This is the car goes off the cliff, right?

Itús out there, Yellen has said it.

It kind of sets us up, like 2011 when you had Timothy Geithner saying this was the date.

We got within two dates of it and the market was upset.

And I think if we get into next week and thereús not a resolution of this where it looks like theyúll go past June 5th, I think youúre going to see a lot more fear, I think, creep into the financial markets.

LISA DESJARDINS: Thereús so much to talk about here.

As you said, thereús three big items that still havenút been closed yet, but the one that seemed to be getting a lot of attention today was work requirements.

Farnoush, I want to talk to you about that because it seems like both sides are digging in on that.

Republican said point blank today, no way in hell.

One of the negotiators said that he would give in on work requirements.

You cover progressives.

Is there any chance theyúre going to concede?

And then how do they square that circle?

FARNOUSH AMIRI: So, I think thatús what you see, the tension between Biden and House Democrats over the past week.

I mean, they have not been at the table at all in this, at least not in a way that we have been able to report or see it for ourselves.

And so this week, you saw progressives take that into their own hand.

They wanted to be part of the narrative.

They saw Republicans coming and talking to reporters five, six, seven times a day.

The White House is quiet.

Biden is not saying anything.

So, progressives and Pramila Jayapal wanted to take the narrative back into their own hands to be able to say, we are not going to pass just any bill.

This is what she told me today.

The President canút just call us up and say, this is what weúve negotiated.

Youúre going to vote on this for me, the way that he did with Build Back Better and the infrastructure bill, like thatús not the same progressive caucus today.

PETER BAKER: And heús feeling the heat.

You can see heús feeling the heat.

Because whatús fascinating is the president left, of course, for the weekend.

Thereús a lot of criticism about whether he should have done that.

He headed off to Camp David this evening.

And as heús heading off to the Marine One helicopter, he says, Iúm very optimistic.

It looks like we might have a deal, and we might know whether weúll have a deal as early as tonight.

27 minutes later, his White House puts out a statement saying, whoa, no way, work requirements, no way weúre doing it.

Weúre taking money out of the food, out of the mouths of poor people to pay for tax cuts for the rich, suddenly laying down that hard line.

Now, why are they doing that?

Not because the Republicans, because theyúre trying to signal to the progressive, yes, we got your back on this.

And the question is whether thatús really blowing things up or whether thatús just posturing for the purpose of the politics.

FRANCESCO CHAMBERS: Biden is an optimist, though, right?

We know this about him.

He is an optimist.

And the White House has made the point repeatedly that every time heús discounted, heús able to work these things out.

But that was under a different Congress.

That was not under a Republican-run House.

And one thing that you do see happening now is youúre starting to see that whip count start.

And you have Democrats, like Leader Jeffrries, saying, well, we need to know how many votes you think that youúre going to be able to get for us to know how many votes that we need to give you.

LISA DESJARDINS: Letús break down that map.

Yes, Bres.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: And one of the Republicans I was talking to tonight, Jeffries was on another network talking about this, this afternoon, and this Republican was saying to me, the more Democrats complain about this, the better it is for Republicans, the better it is for McCarthy.

Heús like, every time Jeffries goes out there and says something bad about this deal, I get more votes.

Now, theyúll lose it on the left, and they still got to get to 218, but the worse it is, if Pramila, Jaypal and all these guys are upset, thatús good for McCarthy.

The other way around would be bad for McCarthy.

So, itús going to be close.

There are not going to be 300 votes.

FARNOUSH AMIRI: Yes, and theyúre whipping.

I mean, Jayapal has been whipping against permitting reform.

LISA DESJARDINS: Right.

FARNOUSH AMIRI: Sheús been whipping against work requirements.

Sheús been whipping against spending caps.

I mean, these are -- and they have the largest caucus in the -- LISA DESJARDINS: 100 voting members.

FARNOUSH AMIRI: More than 100.

Itús like, I believe itús 101 or two or three.

So, itús more than 100, yes.

Theyúre the largest caucus in the House Democrat Conference.

And so if they say no and some centrists who have been vocal about work requirements, they say no, the math, again, as I like to say, is not mathing for anyone.

LISA DESJARDINS: Another topic of conversation this week that Farnoush alluded to earlier has been the messaging here.

I want to show a bit of Kevin McCarthy, just one small fraction of the times that we saw him this week.

I honestly lost count of how many times I was running into him in the hallways, coming out and talking to us dozens of times during this week.

There is an advantage to Capitol Hill.

Obviously, we have far more access to far more people.

Not that this table is split between White House and Capitol Hill correspondents, but, Francesca, I want to ask you, do you think the White House is aware of the idea that they lost the narrative game here early on?

FRANCESCA CHAMBERS: So, the White House is saying that the reason that you donút see them out there more is because they think that it would be hurtful to getting a deal for them to be negotiating in public.

But as far as you were talking about the progressives, I was talking to one leading progressive in an outside group today who was saying that if they give anything more away at the White House, they do not think that they can get progressives on board with this deal.

So, trying to signal to the White House that.

They canút give up the work permit permits, they cannot give up permitting reform -- sorry, work requirements permitting reform and that they need to draw a line here.

At the same time, though, the problem is that Republicans would not have enough support right now for the deal if it stands where it is.

LISA DESJARDINS: Peter, has the White House been out front?

Theyúre sort of playing a traditional game here.

Kevin McCarthy is changing the rules.

PETER BAKER: Yes.

Well, look, Biden told us in Japan just last weekend, donút pay attention to any of this stuff.

Itús just theater, okay?

Iúve been through this.

He says, which, of course, he has been for 50 years.

I mean, like, Bres and I have done a few of these back to, what, Millard Fillmore or something like that.

But this is the way it works, right?

They go out and they fight and they argue and they posture and donút pay attention, he says to the theater, because weúll eventually get there.

But at the same time, itús his own White House sort of playing the theater, right, on the one hand saying, donút pay attention, and then theyúll come out and say something in the briefing like, look at these terrible Republicans.

But theyúre more than happy to have Hakeem Jeffries do the dirty work, to have him be the one being the louder voice while they concentrate on getting the deal at the table, and then theyúll try to sell it.

LISA DESJARDINS: It took a minute.

JOHN BRESNAHAM: McCarthy needed this, though.

I mean, I think weúd all agree.

McCarthy -- this is the entire Congress.

This was the biggest moment of the 118th Congress, and he needed this.

After January, the White House or his own public standing was the 15 votes, and he barely got there, and the conservatives dragged him over the coals, but they didnút think heúd pass a debt limit bill, and he did.

And then this, he needed to do this.

And they were smart about this.

Biden is -- heús old school, but the media today is 24/7, and social media.

McCarthy and those guys were smart about it, and the House Republican leadership, they were smart about it.

And by Wednesday, Thursday, you saw the Democratic leadership, they were really upset.

I mean, Hakeem Jefferies and Katherine Clark and Pete Aguilar, they went out to the steps and just railed on McCarthy for like a half an hour.

And we were told the White House didnút even want him to do that.

So -- FARNOUSH AMIRI: Thereús a risk to what the White House is doing.

The entire narrative has been shaped by Republicans, specifically Garret Graves, Patrick McHenry and Kevin McCarthy.

PETER BAKER: Well, and the whole argument is on the Republican turf, right?

The Democrats actually havenút come into this negotiation asking for something.

They didnút come in asking for an increase in the minimum wage or more spending on this or that.

Theyúre playing defense on the spending we already are doing, that they like.

And the thing that theyúre getting in return is that the debt ceiling is raised.

Well, thatús not much of a gift if the country has to do it all along.

So, a lot of progressives are upset about that.

LISA DESJARDINS: But thatús where things have flipped this time.

Usually, weúve tracked these for forever.

Usually, itús whoeverús making the demands, which is usually Republicans, who loses in the eyes of the public.

They are seen as hostage takers, but not this time.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: But Biden has a different agenda here than the House Democrats.

House Democrats need five seats, and they need chaos.

They need McCarthy to fail.

And in this case, Biden needs McCarthy to succeed.

He needs to raise the debt limit, as you say.

PETER BAKER: And he likes the bipartisan image that he has (INAUDIBLE), and thatús important to him next year.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: And heús talking to the center on immigration, he did on the D.C. crime bill.

I mean, heús tacking to the center.

Heús running for re-election.

And theyúre not in the same place.

Their goals are not quite the same here.

And I think itús really interesting dynamic.

FARNOUSH AMIRI: I will say, on the messaging front, I think there is a risk to how public you negotiate this, right?

Because the more your members start to find out what is in it, what is in it, you saw McCarthy get defensive about that today, saying, donút believe anything until theyúve seen it, this is why -- I mean, Biden knew that if his members found -- if House Democrats found out some of the things that he was willing or has been talking about budging on, that would not be a good look for them, it would fall apart.

FRANCESCA CHAMBERS: Right.

And one Democrat telling me today they see this as a C minus deal the way that it stands right now, and that they feel -- another person telling me that they feel like theyúve got nothing on their side of the ledger.

To go back to what your point was, what if Democrats actually want out of this other than lifting the debt ceiling, which is essentially what Republicans said, the only thing that they were going to give them in this.

LISA DESJARDINS: A quick question about Kevin McCarthy, though.

Itús all kind of a heat on Biden a little bit, but right now, everyone is praising Kevin McCarthy, everyone is friends with him.

Theyúre all -- Chip Roy is very happy with him at this moment.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: To a degree.

LISA DESJARDINS: To a degree, exactly.

Is his job still potentially in jeopardy if he canút land this correctly JOHN BRESNAHAN: He doesnút believe so.

His allies, they donút believe so.

I think he passed the Limit Save Grow Act.

Whatever you say about it, he got 218 votes for it, and he passed it.

And he got to the table with Biden, which is where he wanted to be.

He wanted where he wanted to be all along.

And he has -- up until this point, you can say that he fought the White House to a draw and maybe even have an edge.

Now, like you said, heús got to lay in the plane.

Youúre going to lose people on the right no matter what.

Tom Massey and Chi Roy, theyúre looking for reasons to vote no.

I mean, to be honest, when they try to bring in immigration and other issues this week, theyúre looking for a reason to vote no or oppose it, or at least to go on T.V.

So, heús going to lose some votes on his right.

There are a number of members who just wonút vote for it.

It could be their bill, and they wouldnút vote for it.

And so -- and they understand that.

I think they feel confident where they were.

I donút think he feels like heús going to be challenged at all right now.

But we have to see where these - - the last ten days will be the big ones.

LISA DESJARDINS: I do want to remind our viewers weúve done this before, but itús important for us on the show to do, to talk about the consequences of the debt default or what happens if we canút pay our bills, just a few of them, that we talk about, potentially 1 million job lost in the short-term.

In addition, there could be a possible recession if it were to go on for more than a couple of days.

We could obviously see changes in our credit ratings.

Weúve already had warnings about that, as we just reported, likely cuts in Medicare, Social Security.

We donút know what would be cut in terms of government funding yet.

Military paychecks among the many federal workers that could also see paychecks delayed.

So, we are all smart.

Weúve all covered this a long time.

Letús figure this out.

What do we think a deal could actually look out in spending cuts, permitting work requirements?

Whatús the path here?

We know two years of raising the debt ceiling, right, and some kind of middle figure for spending cuts, is that right?

What are we talking about?

PETER BAKER: It depends on where you start your baseline, right?

Do you say ú youúre freezing it from last yearús level or this yearús level?

And thatús sort of one of the important points, yes.

FRANCESCA CHAMBERS: Where they arenút right now is basically a flat line over fiscal year 2023.

So, you would see this two-year cap, potentially some sort of a deal where in the second year, you would get a one-year spending increase.

The difficult cruelty about that, as one Democrat put it, though, to me, is that Joe Biden is an old school Democrat who likes to tax and he likes to spend.

And this would really constrain him over the next two years for anything else that he might want to do.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: Well, I mean, there will be -- thereús going to be some carve out for military funding and veterans funding.

LISA DESJARDINS: Do you think that will be in the deal, or is that a handshake in the deal?

JOHN BRESNAHAN: I think it has to be in the deal.

I mean, thereús no way -- I think McCarthy canút go to the floor without that.

I mean, he needs his hawks.

He needs -- especially -- exactly.

And he needs veterans.

He canút give that away.

How they play the annual appropriations bills is going to be another thing.

Thatús a really complex mechanism.

I do think right now theyúre fighting over the spending caps.

They were going to do a two-year spending cap.

The Republicans want more because they donút want this to just snap back in the future.

They want to argue that weúve changed the course of government spending.

Weúve really done it here, and you just canút be until 2020 of a wink and a nod and Congress gets to lift it last year -- next year.

What strikes me about this, and you talk about this, is that in 2011, we came close to default, but now thereús some Republicans who treat like default as like a glorified shutdown, and itús not.

This is like -- as long as Iúve been covering Congress, this is like -- default was -- this is the atomic bomb of -- PETER BAKER: Yes.

People should understand this is not a government shutdown.

Theyúve never seen this before.

The things you described, they may think, oh, weúve seen this before in a government shutdown.

Itús different than a government shutdown.

LISA DESJARDINS: And global also.

Those are just the effects here in this country.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: The worldús biggest economy defaults on a $31 trillion debt.

Thatús not something thatús happened before.

PETER BAKER: We donút know.

And looming in the wings is Donald Trump, right?

We didnút mention him tonight, but for Kevin McCarthy, one of the factors he has to worry about and heús trying to manage that, is to keep Trump from blowing this thing up or at least coming after him if he makes a deal, because heús going to make a deal, right?

He wants to make a deal.

Biden wants to make a deal.

They actually want to show that Washington works, by the way, which is kind of oddly old fashioned.

And Trump, of course, does not want Washington to work.

Itús not in his interest.

LISA DESJARDINS: But speaking of attention-getting things, is it just me or does it feel like the country and even the Capitol, there isnút that same sense of urgency even for some of the government shutdowns.

Why is that?

Is this the new normal and we donút understand how significant it is?

Whatús going on here?

FARNOUSH AMIRI: I donút know.

I mean, everyone has been saying the other side doesnút have urgency.

I will say going -- I mean, they all left for Memorial Day, so that doesnút help their case, right?

JOHN BRESNAHAN: I think it changed today with Yellen.

But I think Yellen -- I mean, this was a huge moment.

Yellen is saying, this is the end of the world in ten days.

So -- FARNOUSH AMIRI: On the other end of that, I will say, as someone whoús talked to Republicans, not just Freedom Caucus, who donút take anything, any date Yellen gives seriously, I donút know if this helps in that.

I mean, they were saying, oh, June 1st, that could be any day.

And so now that itús June 5th, I donút think that will help.

LISA DESJARDINS: Iúve often wondered if thatús a talking point, though, if thatús just rhetoric that theyúre saying.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: I saw her letter today was pretty specific.

Sheús talking about -- FARNOUSH AMIRI: No, I mean, Republicans.

LISA DESJARDINS: No, I mean, the Republicans that question that seriously -- FARNOUSH AMIRI: No.

I mean.

I think some of them will seriously -- itús the same ones that would never have voted for this.

So, itús not a big problem for McCarthy, but still a concerning -- JOHN BRESNAHAN: What this has grown over the last decade since the tea party, I remember the tea party guys, I remember talking to one member back at that time, and he thought default wasnút a big deal.

Now, you get to like McCarthy has said, we can default, we can still pay our debt.

FARNOUSH AMIRI: He wouldnút tell Biden, I wonút let it default.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: Yes.

I mean, so, like they know -- they see this as somewhat of a viable option.

And there is very -- that is true, there is very little Yellen is not -- she is not unpopular but they donút believe her.

PETER BAKER: We have been through four years when everything that was unthinkable actually has happened, right, in so many different ways.

So, thatús why this doesnút seem quite as scary, I think, as it once did.

FRANCESCO CHAMBERS: I do think weúre a little bit numb to it, because, in the end, they always do get a deal, right, for the part, no matter.

Itús always down to the deadline, down to the wire.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: Youúve got the longest government shutdown in history, and, frankly, look, I do think that Democrats got a lot of spending in the last Congress, and I do think they have a lot to defend.

But where we are right now is just -- it is scary.

I donút know.

I mean, everybody has been scared since January.

Weúre like, oh, my God, weúve all been waiting for this moment, and now itús here.

And I think itús something to worry about, yes.

LISA DESJARDINS: Very hard differences.

Believe it or not, we only have a few seconds left.

I almost forgot we were on television.

Quickly, do you think weúre going to get a deal this weekend, including Monday, yes or no?

FARNOUSH AMIRI: I mean, so before the X date was announced -- LISA DESJARDINS: Yes or no?

FARNOUSH AMIRI: No.

JOHN BRESNAHAN: Yes.

PETER BAKER: No.

LISA DESJARDINS: Peter?

CHAMBERS: Framework.

LISA DESJARDINS: Framework?

And we have to leave it there for now.

Thanks to my panel for joining us, especially to Francesca, happy birthday on Monday, and for sharing your reporting.

Thanks to all of you for joining us as well.

And donút forget to watch PBS News Weekend on Saturday for a look at the mental health services available to expectant and new mothers as maternal mortality rates in the U.S. continue to climb.

Iúm Lisa Desjardins.

Goodnight from Washington.