BLACK MEN ARE EMERGING AS A POTENTIALLY KEY VOTING BLOC IN THIS YEAR'S PRESIDENTIAL RACE.

AND WHILE BLACK MEN HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN RELIABLE VOTERS FOR DEMOCRATS, SOME SAY THEY FEEL DISCONNECTED FROM THE PARTY AND ARE FRUSTRATED BY ITS INACTION.

BOTH CANDIDATES, KAMALA HARRIS AND DONALD TRUMP ARE MAKING A PUSH TO APPEAL TO BLACK MEN AHEAD OF NOVEMBER'S ELECTION.

JOINING US NOW WITH MORE ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT VOTE ARE ALVIN TILLERY FOUNDER AND TREASURER OF THE ALLIANCE FOR BLACK EQUALITY AND DEVIN JONES.

REPUBLICAN COMMITTEEMAN OF THE 18TH WARD AND CHAIRMAN OF THE SOUTH SIDE REPUBLICANS.

THANKS TO YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US.

WELCOME BACK.

THANK SO LET'S START ABOUT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO BLACK MALE VOTERS.

THIS ELECTION CYCLE.

ALVIN TILLERY, LET'S START WITH YEAH.

WELL, MY MY FROM THE 2040 STRETCH GROUP WHICH IS SUPPORTING THE LINE TO BLACK QUALITY SUPER PAC.

WE'RE TRYING TO MOBILIZE MILLENNIAL AND GEN Z BLACK VOTERS AND YOUNG BLACK MEN.

WE'VE BEEN POLLING ON THE CYCLE SINCE OCTOBER AND WE FOUND AT THE TOP 4 ISSUES FOR BLACK VOTERS, PARTICULARLY THOSE UNDER 40 OUR GUN VIOLENCE, A SURF FEARS ABOUT DECLINING RACE RELATIONS.

FEARS ABOUT PLANS.

WHAT BANS ON BLACK HISTORY AND BANS ON CORPORATE DEI PROGRAMS.

AND THOSE THINGS HAVE RESONATED, YOU KNOW, PRETTY CONSISTENTLY SINCE AUGUST AND RIGHT UP UNTIL 2 WEEKS AGO WHEN WE PULLED OUR LAST POLL OUT OF THE FIELD.

AND TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE TALKING AUGUST OF LAST YEAR AND YEAH, HEARD LAST YEAR.

ALRIGHT, DEVIN JONES IN QUESTION TO YOU.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO BLACK MEN THIS ELECTION CYCLE?

I THINK ON THE GROUND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DEALING WITH FINANCIAL ISSUES, THE ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

I'M A MILLENNIAL MYSELF ON 38 AND A LOT OF US ARE STRUGGLING TO FIND GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT, MEANINGFUL EMPLOYMENT ENTREPRENEURS ARE NOT DOING WELL.

SO THAT'S WHAT I SEE ON THE GROUND IS MORE ECONOMIC ISSUES THE CLIMATE IS NOT HEALTHY FOR US.

DEVON, YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN AND A SUPPORTER OF DONALD TRUMP.

WHAT ATTRACTS YOU TO HIM AS A VOTER?

I THINK FOR ME IT'S A CURTAILING OF GOVERNMENT.

EVERY DOLLAR THAT THE GOVERNMENT TAKES IS A DOLLAR THAT I HAVE TO GIVE IT.

AND AND AS WE HAVE SAME GOVERNMENT HAS NOT SERVED, ESPECIALLY BLACK MAN IN THIS COUNTRY.

AND IN THIS CITY, WE SEE A MIGRANT CRISIS THAT IS OUT OF CONTROL AS MONEY THAT SHOULD BE GOING TO COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO PAY IN TAXES IS GOING TO OTHER THINGS THAT DON'T ACTUALLY HELP HELP THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S WHAT ATTRACTED ME TO HIM IS WHAT HE DID THE LAST 4 YEARS TO CURTAIL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO FIGHT AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR DIFFERENT POLICIES.

WHEN THINK DONALD TRUMP RESONATES WITH OTHER BLACK MEN, I THINK THE SAME REASON I YOU KNOW, AND IT'S IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT DONALD TRUMP NECESSARILY RESONATE.

I THINK A LOT OF IT IS WE HAVE SAVED DESTRUCTIVE POLICIES OF DEMOCRATS IN THE CITY AND THEN THE STATE WE'VE SAME WHAT PROGRESSIVISM HAS TO OFFER AND WE'RE NOT ATTRACTED TO IT ANYMORE.

ALLEN TORY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE FOR THE JOB?

WELL, I MEAN, I HAVE TO DISAGREE DEVIN.

I MEAN, YOU'RE DONALD TRUMP'S PROJECT 2025 AND PROJECT.

47 AGENDA ARE DEEPLY STEEPED IN ANTI-BLACKNESS.

ANY ONE OF THE YOU SORT OF POLICY PROMISES IS TO DEFUND THE EQUAL EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY COMMISSION, WHICH COMES TO US OUT OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964, WHICH BANS WORKPLACE DISCRIMINATION.

IF YOU DEFUND ORGANIZATION MEANT TO POLICE WORKPLACE DISCRIMINATION.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO BLACK MEN IN THE HIRING PROCESS?

I ALSO THINK THE ANTI DEI AND THE AND THE BANS ON BLACK HISTORY, ACTUALLY STARTED WITH DONALD TRUMP WAS ONE OF THE LAST ACTS OF HIS PRESIDENCY WAS TO BAN SPENDING ON DEI PROGRAMS IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BLACK MEN.

85% ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THAT AGENDA.

THE QUESTION WHERE I THINK KEVIN IS RIGHT, IS THAT CAN TRUMP WIN 10, 11, 12% OF THE BLACK POPULATION.

HE ABSOLUTELY CAN.

AND THAT SPELLS A LOSS FOR KAMALA HARRIS.

AND THAT'S WHY THEY SHOULD BE ALARMED ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

SO FOLLOWING THE DEMOCRAT, DID YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO SO PROJECT 2025 IS FROM THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION.

THAT IS NOT A PART OF DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN IS NOT A PART OF HIS AGENDA.

AS SO TO TIE THAT TO HIM WHEN HE IS CLEARLY SAY THAT THAT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM.

I THINK HE'S KIND DISHONEST.

AND AND WE SAID WE SHOULD STOP WITH THAT WITH THAT RHETORIC.

WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT THE VOTERS BELIEVE THAT IT'S NOT SHOWING UP IN ANY OF MY POLLS THAT THE BUSH LEAVE THAT.

AND AGAIN, I'VE ALSO REFERENCE PROJECT AGENDA.

47 SURE WHICH I'M SURE YOU'VE READ.

YES, HE DOES SAY THAT HE WILL DEFUND THE E E O C AND HE ALSO ADVOCATES FOR A NATIONAL STOP AND FRISK AND BLACK KNOW VOTERS ARE NOT IN LINE WITH THAT.

SO OKAY.

FOLLOWING THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION LAST WEEK, MORE THAN 40,000 BLACK MEN BE CONNECTED FOR THIS FOR OUR FUNDRAISING CALLED FOR THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN, FOLLOWED A SERIES OF SIMILAR CALLS HELD BY OTHER DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS, INCLUDING RIGHT.

DUDE'S FOR KAMALA HARRIS, FOREIGN IN THE BLACK MEN FOR KAMALA HARRIS CALLED, ILLINOIS ATTORNEY GENERAL KWAME RAOUL.

HE ACTUALLY JOINED THE CALL AS WELL, VOICING HIS SUPPORT FOR HARRIS SAYING SOMETIME, QUOTE, SOMETIMES AS BLACK MEN, WE GET CONFUSED AS TO WHAT STRENGTH IS.

AND SOMETIMES WE THINK THAT STANDING BEHIND A BLACK WOMAN AS A LEADER DOES NOT DISPLACE STRENGTH AS BLACK MAN.

I'M HERE TO TELL YOU ALL TONIGHT THAT IT DOES THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.

IT DISPLAYS STRENGTH.

HOW YOU THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS SUCH A WAR HERE?

YOU KNOW WHAT PART OF BLACK MEN'S RELUCTANCE TO SUPPORT KAMALA HARRIS IS ABOUT A WOMAN BEING IN THE HIGHEST POSITION IN POWER.

WELL, YES, AND AGAIN RUN.

SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR.

8 IN 10 BLACK ARE GOING TO GO TO THE POLLS AND VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS.

COMPARED OR IS BARACK OBAMA WHO WOULD GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, 9.5 OUT OF 10, RIGHT?

AND SO AMONG THAT SORT OF GROUP MASSAGING ARE NOT WANTING TO HAVE A WOMAN PRESIDENT.

IT IS PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE COCKTAIL THAT CREATES A PROBLEM FOR KAMALA HARRIS WHO RIGHT NOW IS RUNNING BEHIND WHERE JOE BIDEN WAS IN 2020 WITH BLACK VOTERS AND SHE'S GOT TO BE UP WHERE BARACK OBAMA WAS IN 2008 2012 TO WIN.

AND SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE LIKE DEVON 8, THEY'RE MUCH MORE SYMPATHETIC TO THE REPUBLICAN POLICY AGENDA THERE.

THERE IS A NEW BLACK SWING VOTER THAT HE'S WORKING TO COURT.

IT'S JUST A MUCH SMALLER SHARE OF THE POPULATION THAT I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE IT.

BUT YET ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE IN PLAY AND COULD EASILY DENY HER THE PRESIDENCY.

AND THAT'S WHY I STARTED THE ALLIANCE QUALITY TO MOBILIZE YOUNG BLACKS AND BLACK MEN TO UNDERSTAND THE POLICY AGENDAS THAT ARE AT PLAY IN THIS ELECTION.

DEVON, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

IS THERE AN ELEMENT OF MISOGYNY OR HERE?

I DON'T THINK ESPECIALLY WHEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY IS RAISED IN SINGLE PARENT HOMES, WHICH WHICH ARE WOMEN.

I WAS RAISED BY MY MOTHER.

I DO.

NONE OF US HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST BLACK WOMEN.

WE LOVE BLACK WOMEN.

WE SUPPORT BLACK WOMEN.

BUT AGAIN, IT GOES TO THE POLICIES THAT WE HAVE LIVED OUT UNDER MAJORITY DEMOCRAT LEGISLATION.

AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THIS SHIFT THAT YOU ARE CORRECT.

IT'S MUCH SMALLER, BUT I THINK IT'S STILL SIGNIFICANT TO SAY THAT THERE'S A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF US WHO ARE SAYING WE DO NOT WANT A LINE WITH THE AGENDA AS IT HAS BEEN AS SO.

WE WANT TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, SOMETHING THAT LIMITS GOVERNMENT THAT ALLOWS US TO THRIVE IN OUR OWN HOMES AND FAMILIES.

WHAT DO YOU THINK EITHER CAMPAIGN NEEDS TO DO TO REACH OUT TO THE BLACK MALE VOTE?

SPECIFICALLY?

TALK TO US, ADDRESS US WITH WITH DIRECT POLICY.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF GROUPS WHO HAVE GOTTEN A NUMBER OF OF DIFFERENT POLICIES FROM EITHER SIDE.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE POLICY THAT IS DIRECTED, NOT JUST A MAN BUT TO TO BLACK PEOPLE IN GENERAL TO SPECIFICALLY 2 AMERICAN FREE BECAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN JUST SAY BLACK AND AND THOSE OF US WHO ARE WHO WOULD CONSIDER OURSELVES AMERICAN FRIEDMAN, AMERICAN FRIEDMAN.

YEAH.

SO THE DESCENDANTS OF OF SLAVERY, PEOPLE WHO YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE BUY SAY FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICANS, A DOS THAT THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE, THOSE OF US WHO DON'T COME FROM AN IMMIGRANT BACKGROUND BUT HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THIS COUNTRY.

AL VINSON QUESTION TO YOU.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE CAMPAIGNS NEED TO DO TO REACH OUT TO BLACK VOTERS?

THIS IS WHERE I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH GOVERNOR.

I THINK THAT THE MESSAGING THAT THEY'RE EMPLOYING IS THE KIND OF RACE NEUTRAL MESSAGING MAN TO BRING EVERYONE UNDER THE BIG TENT BECAUSE SHE'S RUNNING UNDER THE SORT OF BELIEF THAT SHE'S GOT TO BRING AS MANY WHITE SWING VOTERS FROM THE SUBURBS AND THE RURAL AREAS OVER TO HERS POSSIBLE.

AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE LEAVING ON THE TABLE, DIRECT MESSAGING TO BLACK MEN ABOUT THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY CARE ABOUT, WHETHER THEY'RE WITH DEVON TALKS ABOUT OR WHAT I HAVE FOUND.

MY SURVEYS OF 25,000 BLACK PEOPLE SINCE LAST FALL, RIGHT?

AND SO THE REALITY IS THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.

AND THE REALITY IS THAT HAS TO CHANGE.

AND SO I STARTED MY SUPER PAC IS TOO FUNDED DIGITAL ADS, NOT TELEVISION ADS, WHICH YOUNG BLACK PEOPLE DON'T BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE WATCHING ON THEIR PHONES, RIGHT, SO THAT THEY CAN DIRECTLY SPEAK TO THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CAMPAIGN DO MORE OF THAT RULING OUT LESS SEPTAGE IN AREA AN OCTOGENARIAN ELECTED SAYS THEIR SURROGATES GETTING YOUNG PEOPLE TO TALK TO OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE.

ALL RIGHT.

THEY CAN DO LOOKS LIKE THE BLACK MALE VOTE, MAYBE THE BLACK VOTE ALTOGETHER.

BASED ON WHAT THE 2 OF YOU ARE SAYING COULD BE CRUCIAL FOR THIS ELECTION WILL