YOUR EXPERTISE AND SHARING IT WITH US.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION.

>> Eric: YOU BET.

MORE NATIONAL NEWS AFFECTING MINNESOTA, THE FIRING OF HOMELAND SECURITY HEAD KRISTI NOEM AFTER A CONTENTIOUS WEEK OF CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS AND OF COURSE THE SHOOTINGS DEATHS OF TWO CITIZENS IN MINNEAPOLIS DURING FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ACTION.

POLITICAL REPORTER MARY LAHAMMER HAS MORE CONTEXT ON THE CONFLUENCE OF STATE AND NATIONAL POLITICS.

>> GOVERNOR WALZ WENT TO D.C.

TO TESTIFY ON THE MISUSE OF FEDERAL FUNDS IN MINNESOTA.

>> I'M WITH YOU.

I WANT YOUR HELP ON FRAUD.

WHY WOULD I NOT WANT MONEY TO GO TO THE PROGRAMS I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT, FEEDING PEOPLE, CLOTHING PEOPLE, HOUSING PEOPLE?

BUT WHAT I.C.E.

DID DISRUPTED EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE DOING, IT DISRUPTED OUR FEDERAL PARTNERS, AND IT FORCED OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, WHO HAVE WORKED HARD TO GAIN THE PUBLIC TRUST, TO HAVE THE PUBLIC BELIEVE IN THEM.

>> CAN WE AGREE THAT THIS FRAUD IS A SERIOUS THING, GOVERNOR WALZ, YES OR NO?

CAN WE AGREE ON THAT?

>> YES, ANY FRAUD IS SERIOUS.

>> THANK YOU.

BECAUSE IT'S INTERESTING THAT YOU AND I AGREE THAT IT'S A SERIOUS THING CONSIDERING THE MAN SITTING NEXT TO YOU, YOUR ATTORNEY GENERAL KEITH ELLISON, JUST TWO MONTHS AGO SAID, QUOTE, THIS IS A POLITICAL MATTER.

THIS IS NOT A ERIOUS THING, END QUOTE.

>> WE'RE DOWN SO MANY FEDERAL PROSECUTORS THAT IT HAS PUT OUR ABILITY TO PUT, HOLD THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE DEFINITELY AT A LOSS.

>> IMMIGRATION ACTION AND FRAUD ARE NOW PERMANENTLY LINKED IN STATE AND NATIONAL POLITICS.

>> I JUST ASKED IF YOU HAD ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SAY TO THE PARENTS OR FAMILY OF RENEE GOOD AFTER YOU CALLED THEM DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.

>> CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH AND THE LOSS OF THEIR SON AND THE LOSS OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS.

>> HOW ABOUT SPECIFICALLY CALLING THEM DOMESTIC TERRORISTS WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE OF THAT >> MA'AM, I DID NOT CALL HIM A DOMESTIC TERRORSIST, I SAID IT APPEARED TO BE AN INCIDENT OF.

>> I THINK THE PARENTS SAW IT FOR WHAT IT WAS.

>> THE SPOTLIGHT ON MINNESOTA IS NOT GOING AWAY.

LEGENDARY TECH JOURNALIST KARA SWISHER HAS ALSO SOLD OUT THE PANTAGES IN MINNEAPOLIS FOR AN EVENT CALLED RESIST AND UNSUBSCRIBE PRODUCED BY TANE DANGER.

>> IT WAS ALL BORN OUT OF DO SOMETHING, LIKE WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE, AND IN MINNEAPOLIS YOU'RE DOING PROTESTS, YOU'RE DOING ALL MANNER OF RESISTANCE.

AND SO IT SEEMED LIKE THE PERFECT PLACE BECAUSE YOU GUYS REALLY HAVE SHOWN HOW TO DO RESISTANCE IN A REALLY EFFECTIVE WAY.

>> YOU HAVE BEEN TEASING OUT SOME SURPRISE GUESTS PERHAPS.

I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO REVEAL IT.

>> CAN'T TELL YOU.

>> I KNOW, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING MAYBE IF THERE'S SOMEBODY WITH THE LAST NAME WALZ OR KLOBUCHAR.

>> I KNOW THEM, I KNOW THEM.

>> I WONDER IF YOU'VE TALKED TO THEM.

>> I HAVE TALKED TO THEM.

>> AS A POLITICAL REPORTER I WATCH THE TWO OF THEM IN D.C.

THIS WEEK AND ONE OF THEM HAD SOME PARTICULARLY SHARP EXCHANGES WITH THE NOW FORMER KRISTI -- >> HOMELAND -- >> NOEM.

YEAH.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, ARE YOU SURPRISED THAT SHE'S GONE NOW >> NO, WE'VE SAID IT ON THE PODCAST THAT SHE'S GOTTA GO.

>> NOEM IS THE FIRST DEPARTURE IN THE SECOND TERM OF TRUMP.

>> SHE MURDERED PEOPLE, SO THAT COULD BE IT.

BESIDES, YOU KNOW, SHE'S JUST SO INCOMPETENT THE WAY THIS HAS BEEN ROLLED OUT AND OF COURSE THERE'S NOT JUST INCOMPETENCE OF HER VARIOUS ACTIONS ESPECIALLY IN MINNESOTA, WHICH EVERYONE SAW THE INCOMPETENCE ON DISPLAY.

AND ILL-WILL.

>> SO THERE'S ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND AS MARY SAID SHE WAS ON CAPITAL HILL THIS WEEK AND AMY KLOBUCHAR WAS AMONG A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, REALLY GRILLED HER.

>> YES, YES.

>> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT MATTERS?

THE SHOW OF HER -- >> A LOT.

THAT WAS TO ME I AS ODDLY ENOUGH WITH ONE OF THE SENATORS WHO GRILLED HER, NOT KLOBUCHAR, THERE WAS A REPUBLICAN SENATOR, WE HAD AN OFF THE RECORD THING, I CAN'T SAY WHO IT IS, BUT HE GAVE HER A TALKIN' TO, LET'S JUST SAY.

THEY ALL DID.

WHEN I SAW THE REPUBLICANS ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL REPUBLICANS WENT AFTER HER, AND EVEN JOHN KENNEDY WHO HE DOES HIS BEST TO BE A LAPDOG TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WAS GOING AFTER HER.

THEY PROBABLY FELT SAFE TO DO SO.

>> THE BULWARK NEWS AND OPINION SITE WITH MORE THAN A MILLION FOLLOWERS TWICE SOLD OUT THE PANTAGES THEATER AND FILED REPORTS FROM MINNEAPOLIS.

>> THEY ARE DEFINITELY NOT WINDING DOWN.

WE'VE SEEN JUST HIS WEEK SIX OR SEVEN TRUCKLOADS OF BRAND NEW VEHICLES COME IN.

>> BACK AT THE STATE CAPITOL LAWMAKERS ARE CONSIDERING A VARIETY OF MEASURES DEALING WITH IMMIGRATION ACTION AND FRAUD BUT IN A IED HOUSE, BILLS ARE STRUGGLING TO ADVANCE.

>> THE HOUSE FRAUD PREVENTION COMMITTEE HEARD SUSPICIOUS SPENDING IS ALREADY DECREASING.

>> THIS IS A BIG DEAL.

I MEAN, 62% DROP WHEN WE'RE ACTUALLY STARTING -- WE HAVEN'T EVEN IMPLEMENTED, REALLY, FRAUD PREVENTION, OR VERY LITTLE.

BUT WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT, SO WE'RE SCARING OFF THE FRAUDSTERS.

>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE CAN DO AS A STATE IS BETTER VETTING OF BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE ON THE FRONT END.

>> ONE BILL WOULD REQUIRE FRAUD TO BE A FACTOR IN THE BUDGET FORECAST.

>> EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR THAT WE DEAL WITH IS ROLLED UP INTO THE FORECASTS.

SO IT SEEMS LOGICAL TO ME THAT WE WOULD SIMILARLY PUT IN WHAT THE COST OF FRAUD IS INTO THE FORECASTS.

>> WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE INTEREST IN CREATING ADDITIONAL TOOLS, OUR TWICE A YEAR FORECASTS ARE NOT THE PLACE FOR THIS ANALYSIS.

>> IT DOESN'T REALLY LAY OUT A PLAN.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE -- AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU IF YOU HAVE A LEGITIMATE PLAN.

>> A HOUSE COMMITTEE ALSO FAILED TO ADVANCE THE FRAUD ISN'T FREE ACT.

>> ANY FUNCTIONAL PRIVATE SECTOR ORGANIZATION WOULD HAVE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FIRED IN A BILLION-DOLLAR SCANDAL INCLUDING PROBABLY THE CONSIDER CEO OF THAT ORGANIZATION.

AND THAT ACCOUNT