>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, OUR WEEKLY LEGISLATIVE UPDATE LOOKS AT THE WEEKLY UPDATE AND HOW TO SAVE DEMOCRACY BY BREAKING PARTISAN GRIDLOCK IN POLITICS.

OUR WEEK LONG LOOK AT THE SUPER BOWL CONTINUES WITH THE OVERALL IMPACT ON THE STATE ECONOMY.

THAT'S NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

A CHECK OF HEADLINES, THE STATE SENATE VOTED TO LIFT A FUNDING CAP KEEPING ARIZONA PUBLIC SCHOOLS FROM SPENDING $1.4 BILLION THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED BUT COULDN'T USE AND THE SENATE VOTE WAS 23-7 WITH NINE REPUBLICANS JOINING ALL 14 DEMOCRATS VOTING YES AND THE VOTE FOLLOWS THE PASSAGE BY THE HOUSE AND THE APPROVAL NOW MEANS SCHOOLS WILL NOT BE FORCED TO MAKE MASSIVE SPENDING CUTS UP TO 17% AND CLOSE CLASSROOMS ACROSS THE STATE.

>>> PLENTY TO GO OVER FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN'S STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS INCLUDING THE SPEECH ITSELF WHICH AT ONE POINT WAS INTERRUPTED BY REPUBLICANS HECKLING THE PRESIDENT ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID WERE G.O.P PLANS TO CUT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE.

IT RESULTED IN A ROUND ABOUT WAY IN THE PRESIDENT GETTING REPUBLICANS TO BACK OFF ANY TALKS OF CUTS.

>> INSTEAD OF MAKING THE WEALTHY PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE, SOME REPUBLICANS WANT MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY TO SUNSET.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE MAJORITY.

(HECKLING).

>> ANYBODY WHO DOUBTS IT CONTACT MY OFFICE AND I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY, I'LL GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE PROPOSAL.

I'M GLAD TO SEE -- I ENJOY CONVERSION.

[ Laughter ] >> IF CONGRESS DOESN'T KEEP THE PROGRAMS THEY WOULD GO AWAY.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S THE MAJORITY AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A SIGNIFICANT -- BUT IT'S BEING PROPOSED BY INDIVIDUALS.

I'M NOT POLITELY NOT NAMING THEM BUT PROPOSED BY SOME OF YOU.

SO FOLKS, AS WE ALL APPARENTLY AGREE, SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE IS OFF THE BOOKS NOW, RIGHT?

[APPLAUSE] >> Ted: OUTBURSTSOUTBURSTS DURING A STATE OF THE UNION IS UNUSUAL BUT MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE OFFERED NO APOLOGIES.

>> HE GOT EXACTLY WHAT HE DESERVED AND I DON'T THINK SPEAKER MCCARTHY IS UPSET FOR EXPRESSING OUR VIEWS AND UNWILLING TO ALLOW THE PRESIDENT TO LIE.

WHAT WILL I DO?

STAND UP AND GIVE CLAPS?

NO THANK YOU.

I DON'T CLAP FOR LIARS.

>> Ted: THEY EXCHANGED WORDS IN THE AISLE AS THEY USED TO ENTER THE I'LL AND SANTOS IS UNDER AN ETHICS ENTIRE INTERVIEW AND ROMNEY TOLD SANTOS HE DIDN'T BELONG HERE AND GAVE THIS EXPLANATION.

>> I DIDN'T THINK HE WOULD BE SHAKING HANDS WITH EVERY SENATOR IN THE UNITED STATES, THAT HE'S UNDER INVESTIGATION THAT HE WOULD BE IN THE BACK ROW AND SITTING QUIET AND PARADING AND PEOPLE COMING SPOT ROOM.

>> DID HE RESPOND TO YOU?

>> HE SAID THAT HE EMBELLISHED HIS RECORD.

THAT'S AN A WHEN YOU GET AN A -AND THAT'S WHEN YOU GRADUATED FROM A COLLEGE YOU DIDN'T ATTEND.

HE SHOULDN'T BE IN CONGRESS AND SHE'LL GOTHEY'LL GO THROUGH CONGRESS AND HOPEFULLY GET HIM OUT.

IF HE HAD ANY SHAME AT ALL, HE WOULDN'T BE THERE.

>>> ARIZONA SENATOR, KYRSTEN SINEMA WHO LEFT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SAT ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE AISLE AND CONGRESSMAN JUAN CISCOMONI DELIVERED A STATE OF THE UNION RESPONSE AND DELIVERED HIS SPEECH IN SPANISH.

ONE MORE NOTE, A CNN-SSRS SHOWED THOSE WHO WATCHED WASES INTO ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID AND CAME AWAY WITH AN OPTIMISTIC VIEW AND AFTER THE ADDRESS, 71% BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT'S POLICIES WILL HELP MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND 29% FEELING THE OPPOSITE.

>>> IT'S WEDNESDAY AND THAT MEANS IT'S TIME FOR AN UPDATE IN WHICH WE HEAR ABOUT THE LATEST ACTIVITIES ON THE STATE CAPITOL AND IT'S THE DEMOCRAT'S TIME AND WE HAVE JUAN MENDEZ AND ALMA HERNANDEZ AND ALMA, WE'LL START WITH YOU -- LET'S START WITH JUAN BECAUSE OF THE SENATE'S ACTION TODAY AND MAKING THE HEADLINES.

AS WE MENTIONED, SPENDING CAP LIFTED AND WAS THERE EVER A QUESTION ON WHETHER THAT VOTE WOULD GO THROUGH?

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, NOBODY WAS -- EVERYBODY WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE EDUCATION FUNDING AND THE REPUBLICANS COMING THROUGH WITH THIS, BUT TO SET CONTEXT, THAT WAS SET IN THE 80'S, BEFORE I WAS BORN.

IT HAS BEEN STOPPING US FROM MODERNIZING OUR SCOOT SCHOOL BUDGETS AND SO THIS WAS THE BARE MINIMUM THAT WE COULD HAVE ASKED AND EVEN THEN, THEY DRAGGED THEIR FEET SO LONG AND TOOK US TO THE LAST MINUTE.

>> Ted: THIS FOLLOWED YESTERDAY'S VOTE IN THE HOUSE AND CONSIDERING THE SERIOUS NATURE OF ALL OF THIS AND YOU PLAY POLITICS AND WAS THERE EVER REALLY A QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS PASSED?

>> WELL, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE KNOW THAT SCHOOLS WERE GOING TO CLOSE.

PEOPLE WERE NOT GOING TO RECEIVE THEIR PAYCHECK IF THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I BELIEVE WE WERE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION WE WOULD WAIT AT THE LAST MINUTE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN AND THERE WAS ENOUGH PRESSURE TO GET IT DONE AND MOST OF THESE RULES, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO VOTED AGAINST ITS AND THE ENTIRE ECONOMY IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THEY WERE VERY WORRIED, AND ALSO A LEGISLATOR AND CONCERNED THEY WOULD NOT KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN AND IT'S PROBLEMATIC WHEN YOU WERE UP AGAINST A DEADLINE.

WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR AND IT'S PROBLEMATIC.

WE HAVE TO DO BETTER AND WE HAVE LEGISLATORS WHO HAVE INTRODUCED BILLS THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM DOING THIS EVERY YEAR.

THERE'S A GREAT BILL WITH GUARDRAILS AND MODERNIZE THE SYSTEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BE FIGHTING EVERY YEAR, WILL WE WAIT UNTIL SCHOOLS CLOSE OR DO THIS NOW?

>> Ted: I BELIEVE SENATE PRESIDENT FANN SAID NOT TO DO THIS ALL OF THE TIME AND IS THIS GAINING TRACTION IN.

>> THIS.

>> THIS IS A BARGAINING CHIP AND IT WAS OUT OF THE ORDINARY THAT THEY GAVE THE FUNDING NOW AND DIDN'T HOLD IT OVER OUR HELDS LATER ON.

BUT YOU COULD GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE SENATE PRESIDENT GIVE HIS SPEECH AND HE IS VERY COGNIZANT OF NOT WANTING TO CLOSE THE SCHOOLS, SO IF ANYTHING, THEY DID THIS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GET HIT WITH ATTACKING SCHOOLS.

>> Ted: G.O.PES WANTED MORE SCHOOL TRANSPARENCY AND WANTED MORE RESPONSIBLE AND MORE ACCOUNTABILITY FROM SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

DID THEY HAVE A POINT?

>> I WILL SAY THIS, A LOT TO BE DONE TO MODERNIZE THE SYSTEM AND A LOT TO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WORKS.

JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED TO PUT ACCOUNTABILITY.

IT'S THE SAME ARGUMENT WE CAN MAKE WITH ESA'S.

WE HAVE TO HOLD DISTRICTS, BUT ALSO EVERYONE ELSE IN EDUCATION ACCOUNTABLE.

THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO AND THEY KNOW OUR DOORS ARE OPEN AND WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM AND GOES BACK TO REPRESENTATIVE POLLACK'S BILL.

TRANSPARENCY, GUARDRAILS, ENSURING THE DISTRICTS ARE ABLE AND SPENDING THE MONEY THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SPENDING.

>> THE CRIES FOR DISABILITY ARE DISINGENUOUS AND THEY'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING WHEN TO USE A STICK STICKING POINT.

>> Ted: THE SKINNY BUDGET WAS THERE AND GONE AND I'M WONDERING IF IT WILL COME BACK AND WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF THIS AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

>> MORE DISINGENUOUS DEALINGS AND IT'S MORE OF A "DO NOTHING" BUDGET AND HELD OVER FROM LAST YEAR THAT'S BEEN STRIPPED OF A LOT OF THE FUNDING AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO SAY THEY'RE NOT DOING REAL NEGOTIATIONS BY OFFERING THIS BUDGET WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE GOVERNOR'S BUDGET AND THE DEMOCRATS, WHICH ARE ALMOST HALF OF THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE.

SO TO PUT THIS BUDGET OUT WITH NO STAKEHOLDER MEETING OR TALKING TO US IS NOT A REAL BUDGET.

>> Ted: REPRESENTATIVE?

>> AS SOMEONE WHO VOTED LAST YEAR, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT WHEN THEY'RE INTRODUCING THIS SKINNY BUDGET AND THE SAME AS LAST YEAR AND IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT TOOK OUT EVERYTHING THAT MADE IT BIPARTISAN.

WE CAN'T BE OK WITH LAST YEAR WHEN IT DID AWAY WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS AND THE BIPARTISANSHIP THAT WAS IN IT TO BEGIN WITH IT.

>> Ted: REPUBLICANS WILL SAY IT NEEDED TO BE THERE IN CASE TALKS FAIL DOWN THE WAY.

IT'S A SKINNY AND CONTINUATION AND IT'S TO KEEP THE GOVERNMENT GOING COME JULY 1.

>> I APPRECIATE THE URGENCY AND IT'S BEEN IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH SOMEONE THAT WILL CONTINUE THE GOVERNMENT RUNNING.

THIS USING THIS AS LET'S GET THIS DONE AND CONTINUE WORK AS USUAL, NO.

WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE BUDGET PLAN THAT OUR GOVERNOR, BECAUSE SHE IS OUR GOVERNOR, THE ONE THAT SHE HAS.

FOR THEM TO SAY SHE DIDN'T CONSULT WITH US AND WE DIDN'T SEE THE BUDGET BEFORE, WE DIDN'T SEE IT WHEN DUCEY HAD IT AND YOU CAN'T USE THE ARGUMENTS.

THEY'RE OPERATING AS IF THEY'RE IN A SUPER MAJORITY AND THEY NEED TO REMEMBER, THEY ARE NOT.

WE'RE ONE MEMBER AWAY IN THE HOUSE AND TWO IN THE SENATE AND WE HAVE TO BE INCLUDED.

>> WITH THE WAY THEY'RE FRAMING IT, IT MAKES THEM SOUND LIKE THEY'RE WILLING TO SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT AND TANK THE ECONOMY IF THIS IS THE WAY THEY'RE NEGOTIATING RIGHT NOW.

>> Ted: IS A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN POSSIBLE?

>> I'M AFRAID.

>> Ted: IS IT POSSIBLE COME JUNE 30th, JULY 1st?

>> ALL I WILL SAY, BASED ON THE VOTES YESTERDAY AND TODAY, THEY'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH US TO ENSURE WE COME UP WITH A BUDGET THAT WORKS AND THEY'LL NEED US AND WE HAVE TO BE INCLUDED.

I BELIEVE WE'LL GET UNTIL THE LAST DAY AND EVERYONE IS FREAKING OUT AND SAYING WILL WE SHUT DOWN OR NOT.

WE'LL HAVE TO GET INTO THAT POINT, I'M SURE, BASED ON WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW.

AND I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS WE'LL SEE.

THAT'S ON THEM.

THEY'RE IN THE MAJORITY.

>> TAKING US TO THAT END IS DANGEROUS FOR THE ECONOMY, FOR EVERYBODY.

>> Ted: I HAVE TO STOP YOU, SENATOR WANT HERNANDEZ AND ALMA HERNANDEZ.

GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

UP NEXT, SAVING DEMOCRACY BY CHANGING HOW GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVES ARE ELECTED.

>> Ted: K IMPELKATHERINE GEHL EQUATES THIS TO A BAD BUSINESS MODEL AND BOOK OF HOW THIS CAN GAVE OUR DEMOCRACY AND SHE SPEAKS ON "SAVE DEMOCRACY ARIZONA" AND JOINS US ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

>> SO GLAD TO BE HERE.

>> Ted: I'M SURE YOU'RE FROM THE MIDWEST, RIGHT?

>> I'M ENJOYING THE WEATHER.

>> Ted: FIRST QUESTION, WHAT IS THE STATE OF DEMOCRACY IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW?

>> WELL, I THINK HERE I CAN PROBABLY SPEAK CONFIDENTLY ON BEHALF OF THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS THAT WE ARE DISAPPOINTED AT THE DYSFUNCTION IN OUR GOVERNMENT AND WE SEE THAT IN THE DISAPPROVAL RATING OF CONGRESS, WHICH LOVERS HOVERS BETWEEN 80% AND 90%.

THIS IS NOT WORKING.

>> Ted: SO WHAT IS THE POLITIC'S INDUSTRY THEORY AND WHAT IS THAT ALL ABOUT?

>> SO THE IDEA IS LET'S THINK ABOUT POLITICS AS A BUSINESS.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALIZED SOMETIME AGO RUNNING MY BUSINESS AND SELLING MORE CHEESE SAUCE IS WOW, IF I WERE MAKING MY CUSTOMERS AS UNHAPPY AS OUR POLITICAL INDUSTRY, OUR POLITICIANS ARE MAKING THEIR CUSTOMERS, THE VOTER, THERE WOULD BE NEW COMPETITION COMING IN TO GIVE ME AND MY COMPETITORS A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY AND THAT NEVER HAPPENS IN POLITICS.

WE'RE STUCK WITH THE SAME OLD CHOICES, THE LESSER OF TWO EVIL ELECTIONS.

>> Ted: IT'S DOMINATED BY A DUOPOLY.

>> THAT WON'T CHANGE NO MATTER HOW UNHAPPY NOVEMBER VOTERS VOTERS ARE.

>> Ted: AT THIS POINT, IS THERE ANY CONNECTION BETWEEN GETTING ELECTED AND SOLVING PROBLEMS ONCE YOU ARE ELECTED?

>> YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

IN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, SOLVING PROBLEMS IN A CONSENSUS MAKES IT LESS LIKELY THAT THE POLITICIANS WHO DO THAT WILL WIN REELECTION.

SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TO CONNECT THOSE THINGS, WHICH IS GETTING THINGS DONE ON BEHALF OF THE VOTERS AND MAKING IT MORE LIKELY TO WIN REELECTION.

THE REASON IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY NOW IS BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR U.S.A. HOUSE AND SENATE AND THE MAJORITY OF YOUR ARIZONA LEGISLATURE IS ELECTED IN LOW TURNOUT SUMMER PARTY PRIMARIES.

WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE NO ONE WINS ELECTIONS UNTIL ALL VOTERS ARE HEARD FROM IN NOVEMBER.

>> Ted: SO WE HAVE PRIMARY VOTING, WHICH I KNOW YOU SAID NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, PLURALITY VOTING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, AS WELL TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.

>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE NOBODY WINS WHEN EVERYBODY TURNS OUT.

SO AND SO WON THE PRIMARY IS AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO WIN.

YOU SHOULD HAVE FIVE CHOICES IN NOVEMBER AND THEN YOU SHOULD REQUIRE THAT PERSON TO WIN A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES.

SO WHAT WE USUALLY DO IN THIS COUNTRY, WE LET SOMEONE WIN IF THEY HAVE THE MOST VOTES BUT NOT REQUIRE A TRUE MAJORITY.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF CANDIDATES, LET'S SAY, IN A PRIMARY, SOMEONE CAN WIN WITH 30%.

>> Ted: WHY HAVE WE NOT SEEN THESE KIND OF REFORMS?

AT LEAST NOT ON A MAJOR SCALE.

I KNOW ALASKA HAS SOMETHING GOING.

THIS MAKES SENSE AND WHY HAVE WE NOT SEEN IT?

>> WE'RE LIKE FISH SHOULD CANNOT SEE IT.

IT'S LIKE A SCHOOLHOUSE ROCK JINGLE THAT, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARTY PRIMARIES AND YOU COULDN'T POSSIBLY GIVE PEOPLE MORE THAN TWO CHOICES AND YOU COULDN'T HAVE COMMISSION BETWEEN MORE THAN ONE REPUBLICAN IN NOVEMBER AND IN A REPUBLICAN DISTRICT.

THE CONSTITUTION GIVES ARIZONA THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE TO ELECT THEIR OFFICIALS AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT POWER THAT WE HAVE.

>> Ted: TALK ABOUT ARIZONA AND EFFORTS.

YOU'RE HERE BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS, EFFORTS TO CHANGE HOW TO DO THINGS.

>> I'M HERE OF A GUEST CALLED "SAVE DEMOCRACY ARIZONA" AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THEM IN ANY WAY I CAN TO MAKE THE CASE FOR THIS SOLUTION CALLED "FINAL FIVE VOTING" WHICH CREATES AN OPEN PRELIMINARY ROUND ON THE DAY YOU WOULD TRADITIONALLY HAVE PARTY PRIMARIES AND EVERYBODY PARTICIPATES, VOTERS AND CANDIDATES.

THE TOP FIVE FINISHERS WILL ADVANCE TO A GENERAL ELECTION AND SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHO WON.

YOU'LL SEE A DYNAMIC COMPETITION AND THEN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION, WE USE INSTANT RUNOFFS TO NARROW THE FIVE CANDIDATES TO THE FINAL TWO, AT WHICH POINT THE MAJORITY WILL WIN.

THE IDEA BEHIND THIS, TED, IS THAT IT'S NOT TO CHANGE WHO WINS, IT'S THAT WHOEVER GETS ELECTED IN NOVEMBER, INSTEAD OF IN A PRIMARY PARTY CAN DO DIFFERENT THINGS ON BEHALF OF THE VOTERS.

>> Ted: THIS SOUNDS LIKE A WEIRD QUESTION, BUT RANKED CHOICE VOTING AND TOP FIVE FOR CANDIDATES, BUT ONCE YOU GET ELECTED, THESE ISSUES, THAT'S PLURALITY VOTING AND THUMBS UP AND THUMBS TOWN AND CAN THE TWANE MEET?

>> WHAT THIS DOES ONCE PEOPLE ARE ELECTED IS LET'S SAY THEY'RE SERVING ON BEHALF OF PEOPLE IN ARIZONA IN THE U.S. HOUSE AND SOMEONE ELECTED BY NOVEMBER VOTERS, BY ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS WHO WOULD TURN OUT IN A RED DISTRICT AND NOT JUST THOSE IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, PLUS THE DEMOCRATS AND THE INDEPENDENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE A LOT OF ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE, MAKE DEALS AND INNOVATE AND FIGURE OUT A CONSENSUS WAY FORWARD.

RIGHT NOW, WHEN OUR REPRESENTATIVES GO TO WASHINGTON, D.C. ONLY ELECTED BY THESE VOTERS AND THESE VOTERS, THE ONLY 8% THAT TURN OUT IN THESE PARTY PRIMARIES, THEY CAN ONLY DO WHAT THE SMALL MINORITY WANTS THEM TO DO.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION.

A LOT OF ELECTIONS HERE AND A LOT OF LEVELS HERE, MORE SO THAN RIGHT NOW AND WE CAN'T GET THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE WITHOUT PEOPLE SAYING EVERYTHING IS RIGGED AND EVERYTHING IS A FAKE.

HOW WILL WE SURVIVE ALL SORTS OF CONTROVERSIALS AND THEORIESCONTROVERSIES AND THEORIES?

>> THE FACTS ON THE GROUND FROM ALASKA RUNNING UNDER THIS SYSTEM WILL SHOW US THAT WE THINK IT'S COMPLICATED AND IT'S NOT.

IT'S ONE PRELIMINARY ROUND AND YOU PICK YOUR FAVORITE JUST LIKE ALWAYS.

INSTEAD OF THE TOP TWO ADVANCING, ONE DEMOCRAT AND ONE REPUBLICAN, WE ADVANCE FIVE AND SIMPLE.

IN THE GENERAL, IT'S JUST USING A RANKED PLOT RANKED BALLOT.

IT'S SIMPLE TO DO THE SYSTEM AND THAT'S THE FIRST TIME.

>> Ted: QUICKLY, I'M EITHER A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT AND IWANT TO LOSE THE POWER I HAVE.

HOW DO YOU CONVINCE ME.

A GOODME THIS IS AGOOD THING?

>> NO JOB REDUCTIONS OR LAYOFFS.

DEMOCRATS CAN WIN, REPUBLICANS CAN WIN AND TO WIN, YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR CASE TO THE GENERAL ELECTION VOTERS INSTEAD OF JUST A SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE AND I SAY YOUR JOB WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE YOU'LL BE MORE POWERFUL, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF AGENCY WHEN YOU GET TO ANSWER TO ALL OF YOUR VOTERS INSTEAD OF A TINY PORTION OF YOUR VOTERS.

>> Ted: KATHERINE GEHL, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

IT WAS AS PLEASURE.

>> Ted: THE SUPER BOWL JUST DAYS AWAY AND FOOTBALL FANS CONTINUE TO DESCEND ON THE VALLEY FOR A VARIETY OF PRE-AND GAME DAY EVENTS.

WHAT IS DOES THIS ACTIVITY MEAN FOR THE STATE ECONOMY.

WE ASK ANTHONY EVANSS AT THE SEIDMAN RESEARCH INSTITUTE AND HOW BIG OF A DEAL IS THIS FOR THE ENTIRE STATE AND THE ECONOMY ECONOMY.

>> THIS IS THE BIGGEST EVENT FROM HOLLYWOOD, SPORTS AND MUSIC AND ALL ON THIS DATE.

THIS IS MAJOR.

BACK IN 2015, THIS EVENT BROUGHT IN $719.4 MILLION OUTPUT FOR THE STATE'S ECONOMY.

>> Ted: WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS YEAR?

>> I'M NOT INTO SPECULATION AND WE USED PRIMARY DATES WHEN WE CALCULATE AND AS OF TOMORROW, I SHOULD BE ON THE STRATEGY STREETS WITH STUDENTS COLLECTING DATA AND WE GET DATA FROM THE NFL AND MEDIAMEDIA.

>> Ted: I SAW 600 MILLION, WHICH IS 120 IN 2015 AND THE REASON IS THE PRO-BOWL AND PRO-BOWL IS $120 MILLION DIFFERENCE.

>> WE DIDN'T CALCULATE THE PRO-BOWL DIFFERENTLY, BUT IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THE WORLD HAS CHANGED A LOT SINCE 2015, SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE SPENDING PROFILE WOULD BE.

IT WOULD BE 90 TO 110,000 PEOPLE IN THE VALLEY AND PEOPLE WITH TICKETS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR FAMILIES WILL ENJOY OTHER ATTRACTIONS IN THE STATE AND AROUND SIX THOUSAND MEDIA DESCENDING AND NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL BUSINESSES.

>> Ted: GENERALLY SPEAKING, HOW MUCH DOES EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON SPEND AND WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?

>> IT CAN VARY FROM 400 TO 700 BUCKS A DAY.

>> Ted: WHOA!

>> THAT'S EXCLUDING TICKET PRICES BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE CHEAPEST.

>> Ted: I'M HEARING HOTEL RATES ARE 200 2 TWO TO THREE TIMES HIGHER.

>> THEY TALK ABOUT DISPLACEMENT AND PEOPLE ARE PUT OFF FROM COMING DOWN HERE AND THEY WILL BE BECAUSE THOSE RATES ARE HIGH AND THE OCCUPANCY RATES ARE HIGHER AND IT WAS 61 COMPARED TO THE YEAR BEFORE.

>> Ted: IS THERE A SEESAW KIND OF THING AND DOES THAT DECREASE LOCAL SPENDING?

LOCAL FOLKS ARE STAYING AWAY FROM THIS BECAUSE LET THE FANS HAVE THEIR WAY AND ONCE IT'S OVER, WE GET OUT ON THE STREETS?

>> A SHORTER DECLINE IN EXPENDITURE AND THE LOCALS SPENT THAT MONEY DURING THE YEAR.

>> Ted: THESE PEOPLE COMING IN, THEY'RE NOT HERE WITHOUT THIS BIG GAME AND THE PHOENIX OPEN, AS WELL.

>> THE PHOENIX OPEN IS LIKE THE CACTUS LEAGUE, BRINGING IN 200 TO $300 MILLION A YEAR WHICH IS A BIG INFLUX OF CASH.

BUT I THINK WORRYING ABOUT THE LOCALS IS FOOLISH.

WHAT WE LOOK AT IS THE INFUSION OF NEW DOLLARS.

THIS IS MAJOR AND THIS IS A BOOST TO THE EMPLOYMENT AS A WHOLE AND YOU THINK OF LONG-TERM BOOSTS THAT HAVE GONE ON.

THIS IS LIKE THE SUPER BOWL OR THE FINAL FOUR TO ENTERTAIN, TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO RELOCATE OR EXPAND THEIR FOOTPRINT IN ARIZONA.

WE DID A STUDY ON THE EVENTS BETWEEN 2015 AND 2019 AND WE FOUND THAT 42 BUSINESS COMMITMENTS WERE MADE IN PART AS A RESULT OF THE 31 FIRMS AT THOSE EVENTS.

OVER A NINE-YEAR PERIOD, IT WAS $28 BILLION TO THE ECONOMY.

>> Ted: THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND I HAVE TO STOP YOU AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND AN OPTIMISTIC OUTLOOK.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!